tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post8256072172747337399..comments2023-11-05T10:53:07.638+00:00Comments on Patently Rubbish: But No Progress?patentlyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00602962323262055007noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-23173611671141491022009-10-24T22:09:59.493+01:002009-10-24T22:09:59.493+01:00The activist is as thick as two short planks, suck...The activist is as thick as two short planks, sucked into a bizarre conspiracy world.Steven_Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029437876479574883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-22476144854225754552009-10-24T19:38:10.843+01:002009-10-24T19:38:10.843+01:00So, as we feared, it is essentially an anti-politi...So, as we feared, it is essentially an anti-politics thing. <br /><br />Interesting - particularly as the activist's approach is based on the best form of political activity known to spinners!patentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602962323262055007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-8000357995462981532009-10-24T18:43:14.368+01:002009-10-24T18:43:14.368+01:00The local activist convinced them basically. They...The local activist convinced them basically. They all know him (and have done since school), have a natural dislike of politicans, and agree with the BNP stance on immigration - i.e. they don't want any.<br /><br />It's pointless mainstream parties competeing with the BNP on immigration, no one else can promise to go as far as them. These are all votes which labour has lost for the time being, and will probably swing back to labour in a few years time, as the politican cycle turns again and more people start to dislike the tories.Steven_Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029437876479574883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-87261405602957183012009-10-24T09:58:11.671+01:002009-10-24T09:58:11.671+01:00Perhaps you're right up to a point Stephen. P...Perhaps you're right up to a point Stephen. Perhaps the effect is simply that Griffin got some publicity, and if people are already sympathetic then in our celebrity culture publicity is the key.<br /><br />As a matter of interest, why did some of the lads vote for him? Did they say?Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407051721186824991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-68041797748987476492009-10-24T01:40:00.410+01:002009-10-24T01:40:00.410+01:00You're reading too much into it. Some of the ...You're reading too much into it. Some of the lads I drink and go fishing with voted for them. They don't watch QT, they don't even watch the news. They read 'Nuts' and buy the Sun or the Star, turning straight to the football pages. <br /><br />They never talk about politics and tell you stop talking about politics if you so much as hint at mentioning the subject. They wouldn't be able to tell you who the Chancellor of the Exchequor or Governor of the Bank of England are. If you showed them a photo of George Osborne and asked them who it was they'd shrug their shoulders.Steven_Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05029437876479574883noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-13480608921561800032009-10-23T23:42:57.328+01:002009-10-23T23:42:57.328+01:00Coming back to the post, the latest from the BBC i...Coming back to the post, the latest from the BBC is that post <i>Question Time</i> 22% of voters would consider voting BNP. <br /><br />Having now watched the programme I can see perhaps how that happened. In the name of democracy and free-speech he was invited onto the programme, but then he was misrepresented and shouted down. I.e. his democratic right to speak was acknowledged but then denied him. Then the politicians couldn't agree amongst themselves about immigration - a spat which played into his hands.<br /><br />It was so foolish because when he was allowed to speak and received one at a time questioning, he looked ignorant, confused and dishonest (he's a Downing man I gather).Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407051721186824991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-23345745479753503892009-10-23T22:17:02.297+01:002009-10-23T22:17:02.297+01:00Note: "almost". I escaped, showing no t...Note: "almost". I escaped, showing no tendency to don long black dresses.patentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602962323262055007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-6320837992723132392009-10-23T20:02:55.413+01:002009-10-23T20:02:55.413+01:00New Hall was a scary place to enter if one had tes...<i>New Hall was a scary place to enter if one had testicles. Not helped by the fact that almost all of those who left, left not so equipped.</i><br /><br />In case, perhaps it's you who should be referred to in the feminine.Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407051721186824991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-23733989995444974262009-10-23T19:42:38.789+01:002009-10-23T19:42:38.789+01:00Well, if you insist, I will henceforth seek to red...Well, if you insist, I will henceforth seek to redress the balance by referring to you in the feminine. <br /><br />New Hall was a scary place to enter if one had testicles. Not helped by the fact that almost all of those who left, left not so equipped.patentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602962323262055007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-38353382713376167812009-10-23T16:58:16.097+01:002009-10-23T16:58:16.097+01:00As you currently worship in the CofE you should be...As you currently worship in the CofE you should be aware of how deeply wicked it is to include women under any collective masculine noun. It is no defence to appeal to convention as the convention itself is simply a patriarchal plot to subjugate women.<br /><br />But you're right, some of those New Hall women are very butch indeed - especially those in the College rugby team. Glad you haven't been confused for all these years. ;-)Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407051721186824991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-30448886666360804332009-10-23T16:46:50.491+01:002009-10-23T16:46:50.491+01:00Oh Albert, collective uses take the masculine by c...Oh Albert, collective uses take the masculine by convention ... so whilst I would have said "alumnae" for dear Newnham and New Hall, I would not have referred to those alumnae as "men".<br /><br />Well, ok, some of the more butch New Hallians might have confused me, but not (I hope) for long...patentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602962323262055007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-33606427623397195742009-10-23T16:39:27.103+01:002009-10-23T16:39:27.103+01:00Well I'll just send them straight back to you ...Well I'll just send them straight back to you then: 'alumni' looks suspiciously like a second declension <i>masculine</i> noun to me.Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407051721186824991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-54676137096779986292009-10-23T15:48:05.735+01:002009-10-23T15:48:05.735+01:00Yes, the sort that studied there and with which ot...Yes, the sort that studied there and with which other Downing <i>alumni*</i> might wish to be associated.<br /><br /><br />*tut, tut, Albert. Downing also accepts meritorious ladies, so I shall have to send round the PC police. Expect them at 6am tomorrow morning ;-)patentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602962323262055007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-22270181529870950762009-10-23T14:24:08.770+01:002009-10-23T14:24:08.770+01:00Is there another kind of Downing man?Is there another kind of Downing man?Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407051721186824991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-19376302303735329922009-10-23T14:21:12.643+01:002009-10-23T14:21:12.643+01:00a Downing man
Only in the sense of having studied...<i>a Downing man</i><br /><br />Only in the sense of having studied there... >:-|patentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602962323262055007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3083855923964640893.post-46773478580545827582009-10-23T13:41:08.777+01:002009-10-23T13:41:08.777+01:00I didn't watch it, and I obviously loathe his ...I didn't watch it, and I obviously loathe his racism and I dare say a lot more that he stands for. But I think you may be right. From what I can read of the programme, there was a political error of victimising him (or giving him grounds to play the victim). Those who already feel shunned in the same way as Griffin does will have their feelings confirmed. Others who might have been sympathetic before may now be more convinced. <br /><br />I think Hitler came to real national prominence on account of his trial and imprisonment after the Munich Putsch. I'm not suggesting Griffin is as serious as Hitler, but it is a salutary warning about why it is probably not a good idea publically to victimise someone who already wants his supporters to feel victimised.<br /><br />There's a failure here to learn from René Girard about the effect and nature of disgust at public scapegoating in a culture which has been reshaped by the crucifixion. <br /><br />He's a Downing man I see.Alberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407051721186824991noreply@blogger.com